Rndballref
20 Years Experience
Chicago, IL
Male, 60
For twenty years I officiated high school, AAU and park district basketball games, retiring recently. For a few officiating is the focus of their occupation, while for most working as an umpire or basketball referee is an avocation. I started ref'ing to earn beer money during college, but it became a great way to stay connected to the best sports game in the universe. As a spinoff, I wrote a sports-thriller novel loosely based on my referee experiences titled, Advantage Disadvantage
In NFHS all flagrant fouls (personal or technical) result in 2 free throws plus the ball at half court. In addition, the player charged with a flagrant foul is immediately disqualified. You never shoot 1 and 1 on a flgrant foul.
There is no provision for a referee to overrule another official in the Federation rules book, however in practice one official is designated as the referee in a crew with a responsibility to resolve simultaneous calls. My experience is that before the game this situation is discussed between officials. I think it is important to get the call correct, but each referee has his own area to watch. So if I make a call that one of my partners sees a different way I want that official to approach me, tell me what they saw, I give my perspective and then I decided if I will overrule my own decision. That way I can defend the final outcome. So, a few principles: 1) a ref should be watching their own area - that is why you have 2 or 3 of them, 2) there is some overlap and sometimes a second look sees something you can miss, and 3) officials should decide how they will consider overruling each other before the game. Based on your description (that the shot was clearly made from inside the 3 point line), regardless of how the ref's changed the call they apparently got it wrong.
In high school rules, a player can retrieve the ball after a "legitimate" shot attempt without hitting anything. For example, you could retrieve an airball shot even though the ball has not been touched by another player. However, f the throw to the backboard is not a shot attempt and a player purposely throws it off the backboard, I would call that travelling - much like tossing the ball forward to yourself and moving down the court.
I am not a coach, but I will venture an opinion and a recomendation.
He probably goes to a position on the floor, "feels" the defender, and backs into the him. One thing refs are taught about contact low in the blocks is to call a foul on the player who dislodges the opponent. So if he sizes up the defender and then uses his rear end to create space, the refs will call a foul for moving the opponent, I know, big players are taught to use their bodies to block out and create space, but when it is so obvious that he is dislodging the other player it is a foul. So, what is a big strong player to do? Bluntly speaking, use his feet more than his ass. Create space by hustling to a place closer to the basket, then hold your ground and let the defender dislodge you for a foul.
How does a big player get lighter on his feet? Running and jump rope are the best ways I know. Sounds like somewhere along the way someone taught him lazy block out technique if he is constantly in foul trouble.
Have you spoken to his coach about the foul trouble? I bet the tape shows that he is dislodging players without moving his feet.
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you can tap a ball. the main prohibition is that you cannot punch the ball with a fist.
OK, we need some common sense here. Normally after a time out and the warning horn sounds, a player would be denied entering the game. This is to eliminate delays due to substitution gamesmanship (in pro hockey for example the home team has "last substitute"). But in the case where a coach has 30 seconds to replace a fouled out player this rule should not, and does not apply to either team. If common sense prevails, the officials should let A-6 in the game.
Carrying the ball is one of ways the rule book states that a dribble comes to an end. So the very next dribble should be called as a double dribble if the player carried the ball prior to the subsequent dribble. My opinion is that refs have allowed too much carrying to go on - the dribbler gains too much control of the basketball if you let a player cup or turn over the ball.
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