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how & why do you bid for routes?

Asked by billt almost 12 years ago

I have deleted one version of this question because it was posted twice. It is a very good question and I will try to be as clear as I can with the how and why of bidding for routes. Firstly, we bid for routes (or assignments, as it isn't always an actual mail delivery route) so that we are doing the same assignment every day in accordance with a collective bargaining agreement between the USPS and the National Association of Letter Carriers (NALC). It allows carriers to choose what assignment (delivery route, collection route, parcel post route, floater route (which fills in for carriers on 5 routes on their days off and pays a slightly higher wage)) they would like to work. It is based on seniority at a specific installation, not necessarily when you were hired by the USPS. For example, if you transfer from an office in Maryland to an office in Florida, you will likely lose your local seniority putting you at the bottom of the list with regards to bidding on vacant assignments. There are probably some exceptions to this rule and often in cities there may be several delivery stations that you can bid between and not lose seniority if you bid from one station to another. I am no expert in this as I have always worked in the same post office my entire career. I think it is the fairest system around and am a big advocate of seniority based assignments. The airline industry uses it for Pilots and Flight Attendants to choose what equipment they would like to fly, what routes, what cities they would like to be based in, etc. Anyhow, back to the USPS. I am sure there is a process of online bidding, but for vacant assignments in my local post office that are put up for bid, here is how it works. Management will post a sheet a paper called a Notice of Vacancy of an Assignment. The notice will specify the assignment (usually the route #), the specifics of the shift times and days off. The notice will also specify the dates that bidding is open. It is usually a 10-day period. The supervisor will have a locked box on their desk and pink bid cards (blank) available for regular carriers to fill out to bid on the assignment and put the bid in the box. Once the bidding period has expired, the supervisor and union shop steward will open the bid box and sort all of the valid bids by seniority date. The top 3 bidders based on seniority are then announced. The winner then has 3 workdays to try the new assignment and then can decide to keep it or not. If they decide not to keep it, the 2nd and 3rd place bidders can then try out the assignment. It rarely goes past the 2nd place bidder in my experience. I hope this answers your question and thank you for writing.

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Someone I know moved. I wanted their new address without them knowing. I addressed an envelope with their old address and put 'return service requested' above it. The person told me today that they're received the envelope. Why did this happen?

Asked by Amt over 12 years ago

I have no idea why that happened. I assume you mailed the envelope to their old address because you wanted their new address. You probably also assumed that the USPS would return the envelope to you with the new address of the person who just moved instead of forarding the letter because you endorsed the letter "return service requested". I'm sorry I have no further information and I don't know that your local PO would know a lot about this either. As a letter carrier we are taught close to nothing about what that endorsment means, except that it can be processed through the CFS (Comuterized Forwarding System) which handles forwardable/returnable mail. Normally, Standard Class mail without an endorsment can be discarded if the addressee has moved. If the class of mail has the enodrsment, then the CFS processes the said item, though I don't really know what happens to it exactly.

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I would like to know the regulations for attaching it to my house

Asked by chertz over 12 years ago

I can't quote you the regulations, but as long as the box is accessible to the letter carrier without a hazard that is usually sufficient for attaching a box to your house.

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A year ago, I had a rural mail carrier who used her own vehicle. It was a normal jeep; it had the steering wheel and gas pedal and brakes on the left side. She sat in the passenger seat and operated it with her left hand and leg. Was this acceptable?

Asked by Fred almost 12 years ago

I believe that this was acceptable but am not familiar with the rural carrier vehicle regulations. The USPS would likely not let this carrier deliver the mail from that vehicle if it wasn't approved. They can see what vehicle is being used when she leaves the Post Office and returns from her route. The rural carriers in the office where I work also used to use their own vehicles but I don't remember whether or not they were right hand drive (modified for mail delivery) vehicles. In the past few years they have been given LLVs (USPS-owned vehicles) to deliver their routes and don't have the option of using their own vehicle to deliver the mail. Thanks for writing.

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Recently we had a change in postal carriers. Our old guy was very efficient and kind, always greeting us. The new guy is gruff, speeds through the neighborhood, rude, forgetting mail from time to time. We miss our old guy! Are we stuck with this guy?

Asked by Carol over 11 years ago

Unfortunatley, you are probably stuck with the new carrier. Do you know the reason that there was a change in postal carriers? Some of the reasons are: a change in the territory that makes up a route, a carrier chooses to leave their route for another one, or a carrier retires or transfers to another office. When this happens, the route often goes up for "bid", and the most senior carrier who desires to do the route that includes your street gets that assignment. It is not based on how friendly, efficient, or safe that this carrier works. There are plenty of letter carriers at the USPS who won't win congeniality awards or hard worker accolades. There is very little corrective action that can be taken as long as the carrier shows up for work and doesn't get into any motor vehicle accidents. I don't know how you would feel about calling the delivery supervisor to voice your concerns about the new carrier and the safety of their driving as well as them forgetting mail, but you could do that. I don't know what kind of response you will get or if it will change anything, but I don't think it would hurt to mention it. Those qualities are very unprofessional and unsafe in a letter carrier. There are some of these carriers at the office where I work as well. I try to have as little as possible to do with them whatsoever. I'm sure this problem isn't uncommon in the USPS and most other companies. Thanks for writing to jobstr for advice.

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Hey Dave, I was just hired at a PO in Long Island as a CCA. Zip code starting 118. My office is a fairly large office. What are the pros/cons on being at a large office? Also if I am asked to deliver with my own vehicle, can I refuse?

Asked by Rob over 12 years ago

Rob, congratulations on being hired as a CCA. I am guessing it is either Hcksville or Plainview. The PROs may be that you will have many people to meet, many opportunities for filling vacancies, and large neighborhoods to get to know. A con may be that if they are short-staffed, the mgmt can ask you to fill in and do parts of several routes in one day which may be exhausting. The positive part to that is that you are paid for all of your time work including Overtime pay. I believe you can refuse to use your own vehicle to deliver mail, however, they may not then be obligated to give you a govt vehicle to deliver the mail. If that is the case, you may have a reduced opportunity to earn a paycheck. Try to be as polite as possible when given assignments and if it turns out to be too much, speak up and advise the supervisor how much extra time you may need. Always make sure to work safely as well. Try not to get too involved with any office gossip or politics. Good luck and continue asking if you have more qs.

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My rural mailman put an international express in my neighbors box (the mail carrier sign it!). I was tracking it and when the post office was notified they said she signed it so what now. Neighbor said they didn't get it; maybe they did ???

Asked by dat about 12 years ago

I apologize that I don't really know what further action for you to take. Were you able to contact your rural carrier to see if they recall where they put the international express item? Did they, in fact, remember putting it into your neighbor's box (and why)? If your neighbor claims that they didn't receive the item, I don't know what else you can do to prove that they did. I suppose this is one of the risks of allowing a rural carrier to sign for certain mail items.

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how & why do you bid for routes?

Someone I know moved. I wanted their new address without them knowing. I addressed an envelope with their old address and put 'return service requested' above it. The person told me today that they're received the envelope. Why did this happen?

I would like to know the regulations for attaching it to my house

A year ago, I had a rural mail carrier who used her own vehicle. It was a normal jeep; it had the steering wheel and gas pedal and brakes on the left side. She sat in the passenger seat and operated it with her left hand and leg. Was this acceptable?

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Recently we had a change in postal carriers. Our old guy was very efficient and kind, always greeting us. The new guy is gruff, speeds through the neighborhood, rude, forgetting mail from time to time. We miss our old guy! Are we stuck with this guy?

Hey Dave, I was just hired at a PO in Long Island as a CCA. Zip code starting 118. My office is a fairly large office. What are the pros/cons on being at a large office? Also if I am asked to deliver with my own vehicle, can I refuse?

My rural mailman put an international express in my neighbors box (the mail carrier sign it!). I was tracking it and when the post office was notified they said she signed it so what now. Neighbor said they didn't get it; maybe they did ???

Mailman (City Letter Carrier)

Ask me anything!

What do YOU do?

how & why do you bid for routes?

Someone I know moved. I wanted their new address without them knowing. I addressed an envelope with their old address and put 'return service requested' above it. The person told me today that they're received the envelope. Why did this happen?

I would like to know the regulations for attaching it to my house

A year ago, I had a rural mail carrier who used her own vehicle. It was a normal jeep; it had the steering wheel and gas pedal and brakes on the left side. She sat in the passenger seat and operated it with her left hand and leg. Was this acceptable?

Also on Jobstr...

Recently we had a change in postal carriers. Our old guy was very efficient and kind, always greeting us. The new guy is gruff, speeds through the neighborhood, rude, forgetting mail from time to time. We miss our old guy! Are we stuck with this guy?

Hey Dave, I was just hired at a PO in Long Island as a CCA. Zip code starting 118. My office is a fairly large office. What are the pros/cons on being at a large office? Also if I am asked to deliver with my own vehicle, can I refuse?

My rural mailman put an international express in my neighbors box (the mail carrier sign it!). I was tracking it and when the post office was notified they said she signed it so what now. Neighbor said they didn't get it; maybe they did ???

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