Rndballref
20 Years Experience
Chicago, IL
Male, 60
For twenty years I officiated high school, AAU and park district basketball games, retiring recently. For a few officiating is the focus of their occupation, while for most working as an umpire or basketball referee is an avocation. I started ref'ing to earn beer money during college, but it became a great way to stay connected to the best sports game in the universe. As a spinoff, I wrote a sports-thriller novel loosely based on my referee experiences titled, Advantage Disadvantage
If NFHS rules are being enforced, leaving the bench to join the fight is a flagrant technical foul resulting in immediate player ejection. However, if more than one player from a team leaves the bench the other team shoots only 2 technical shots even though multiple players are ejected from the game. In Illinois all the ejected players are also suspended for the next game. AAU and other league rules may differ.
Technically all players have to be beckoned in by a referee. As a matter of practice, I would not call the T unless the player's entry gave them a distinct advantage such as an undefended fast break.
If the player controlled the pass and purposely knocked the ball down, then it began his dribble. If the player reached out to catch the ball and the ball fell to the ground, then it is a muff and did not start the dribble. It is a judgement call by the official.
Normally, contact after a blocked shot would be considered incidental. So unless the contact is intentional or extremely harsh I would let it go.
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I know the NFHS rules but I found this online from SB Nation regarding college reviews:
...now the following types of plays will be eligible:
shot clock violations in final 2 minutes or overtime
out of bounds plays in final 2 minutes or overtime
two point vs three points
which player committed a called foul (to make sure the correct player is assessed)
flagrant foul calls
NOTE: this list does not include intentional so if this correct it would seem to be excluded. maybe someone can post a more definitive answer?
Since awarding the 2nd free throw was in error, and even if it was correctible, play resumes from the point discovered, and all points scored and fouls remain intact. So the ref should have dropped the ball and play on. There is no provision to use a jump ball to fix a misapplication of a rule.
As a practical matter, awarding a jump is less awkward than the chaos of handing it correctly.
The assignment chairperson should never entertain your tape. Your coach probably tapes the games and the coach (or athletic director) should deal with the quality of the officiating. In my opinion you are getting in too deep, without a real understanding of how the officials are trained. For example, they may see what you are yelling about but they may be making an "Advantage Disadvantage" judgement (this is discussed in a previous question).
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